la actividad de la vacuna, realza y fomenta todo lo que es proteína, prototipo, por activista diría que tiene mas sentido dar una noción de números o denominar la vacuna como cura, e intelectualidad para destruir el virus, pero por como lo muestra los médicos o bomberos de una irracionalidad frente al tea party no se entiende si hay que compartir el virus, o compartir proteínas, comamos del mismo Tanguche, fumemos de la misma colilla, si nos drogamos estamos creyendo mas en la fe de jesucristo, y ni hablar de los publicanos, o republicanos, que a cada rato castigan con su mazo, y nos asustan ya no es cuestion del covid no salir de sus casas para cuidarse, es una lucha constante de poder, que se separen los partidos y las "personas" directamente, sin ser tan extremistas porque asustan a la gente, o cuidado los publicanos tambien son hombres malos, se expresan de mala manera, perdoname jesusito. a ahora estoy castigado. ten piedad.

 

la actividad de la vacuna, realza y fomenta todo lo que es proteína, prototipo, por activista diría que tiene más sentido dar una noción de números o denominar la vacuna como cura, e intelectualidad para destruir el virus, pero por como lo muestra los médicos o bomberos de una irracionalidad frente al tea party no se entiende si hay que compartir el virus, o compartir proteínas, comamos del mismo Tanguche, fumemos de la misma colilla, si nos drogamos estamos creyendo mas en la fe de jesucristo, y ni hablar de los publicanos, o republicanos, que a cada rato castigan con su mazo, y nos asustan ya no es cuestion del covid no salir de sus casas para cuidarse, es una lucha constante de poder, que se separan los partidos y las "personas" directamente , sin ser tan extremistas porque asustan a la gente,o cuidado los publicanos tambien son hombres malos, se expresan de mala manera, como se expresaria un publicano en medio de una vacuna? me das la faizer please

 

@Scotchlass: yes, a vaccinated person can get covid and spread it.

I will go as far as to say that a vaccinated person could likely spread covid more than an non vaccinated person. Why? Because a vaxed person is more likely to get little to no symptoms, so they won't even be aware to have the disease. They will not take a test so they will not isolate so they will spread it more. Fair enough.

However, that is the very reason why (IMO) people should get the vaccine: you are less likely to get serious symptoms. Does that mean that if you get vaxed you are totally safe? Absolutely not, you can still die, but it is much much less likely. Does it mean that if you don't gey the vaccine you will end up in an hospital? Also no, but it is much more likely.

That is the reason why, from my point of view, not getting the vaccine harms the community: you are more likely to end up in an hospital. That puts enormous pressure on the health care system and causes resources to be diverted from where they would normally be. Many many many hospitals worldwide have converted entire sections from cardio/onco/ortho to covid because otherwise there's simply not enough space. That means incredibly huge backlogs in everything else. And people dying as a result.

 

Another thing that just amazes me is the people who are willing to pay other people to kill them. Profiting off fake cures and misinformation is almost as wide spread as the virus, And stupid ignorant (two different things) people are willing to make other people rich to kill them.

Anti-Vaxxers Raking In ‘at Least $2.5M’ a Year on Substack, Researchers Say

Anti-vaccine writers have earned upward of $2.5 million with newsletters featuring misinformation on the publishing platform Substack, researchers say. The Center for Countering Digital Hate found that five newsletters alone raked in the huge sum. Joseph Mercola, who has long been seen by experts as one of the most influential spreaders of COVID-19 misinformation, pulled in $1 million in a single year by charging subscribers $50 for his newsletter. COVID contrarian journalist Alex Berenson also got in on the action, earning $1.2 million with a newsletters that costs subscribers $60. Controversial virologist Robert Malone, anonymous writer Eugyppius, and tech entrepreneur Steven Kirsch brought in the remaining $300,000 with newsletters on the platform. The chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate has called on Substack to do more to filter out the dangerous misinformation. “They could just say no. This isn’t about freedom; this is about profiting from lies,” Imran Ahmed was quoted saying by The Guardian.

Read it at The Guardian

https://www.thedailybeast.com/anti-...m-a-year-on-substack-researchers-say?ref=home

 

In quite contrast of what your cherished god half cracker was saying was a few years back.

"Look, the first thing for all of us to understand that is we actually have some -- some choices to make about how we want to deal with our own end-of-life care," Mr. Obama replied. After discussing ways "we as a culture and as a society [can start] to make better decisions within our own families and for ourselves," he continued that in general "at least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what? Maybe this isn't going to help. Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller."...just take a pill.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._taking_painkillers_and_forgoing_surgery.html



https://radioviceonline.com/obama-to-heart-patient-take-a-pill/

*not_secure_link*www.mtv.com/news/2...ters-the-matrix-with-blue-pill-red-pill-talk/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8091227&page=1

 

"another obese person" dies from a flu. big fuckin whoop.

 

Kinky, thank you for a rational response. That is often missing on this forum.

I am in the final stages of recovering from Omnicrud, as is my family. It was like the flu.

I guess, it comes down to risk identification and what level of risk one is willing to accept. I accept the risk of getting more serious symptoms if I remain unboosted (I am single vaccinated). That is also why I take daily supplements specifically for covid, and my family has both ivermectin and hydroxichloriquine on hand. But I refuse to be ordered to be vaxxed or boosted just because the govt. mandates a one size fits all response, treating healthy 5 year olds the same way it does obese, over-65's with hypertension.

As far as flooding hospitals, we did not go to the hospital or even use our medicine. Given my experience, I think that very few healthy people, vaxxed or otherwise, who come down with Omnicrud probably ever need to go to the hospital.

Finally, and I know this will annoy the vaxxers among you, I also think that purposefully conflicting data exists regarding who is flooding the hospitals, the vaxxed or the unvaxxed.

On the one hand, we have reports like these (immediately below) about who is filling hospitals. It seems like almost every time a health professional reports on what they actually see going on, they're fired if it goes against the government's official narrative. So, right or wrong, it is easy to leap to the assumption that someone doesn't want the truth out...

Everyone missed this one… vaccinated people are up to 9X more likely to be hospitalized than unvaccinated people
https://www.theburningplatform.com/...-to-be-hospitalized-than-unvaccinated-people/

The Double Vaxxed are 27 Times More Likely to Get Covid. Natural Immunity was the Best Solution All Along. – Great Britain News:
https://www.handsforhealthandfreedom.org/double-vaxxed-are-27-times-more-likely-to-get-covid/

Then we have contradictory reports from the CDC (below), reports which tell us exactly the opposite. But we already know that the CDC and NIH have lied to us, have used psyops-type efforts which targeted US citizens in order to scare them into compliance. But Fauci obviously did not care that while a good reputation and trust take years to earn, it takes only minutes to destroy them. So frankly, the more we learn about what Fauci and his cohorts were writing in previously hidden emails, the more that people like me just don't trust them anymore.

CDC study shows unvaccinated people are 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc...ore-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html

So you and I, in the end we just muddle along, doing the best we can with the information and data and observations that are available to us. But we end up taking different routes towards the same goal because of our nature and our experiences. And because I lived in third-world countries for over 20 years, my evaluation of "acceptable" risk is clearly very, very different from yours.

 

It’s funny when they say hospitals are full to capacity , But they don’t tell you the Chinese virus capacity is only made up of four beds per hospital. And we are the most densely populated state in the United States , So guess what that’s not so many people is it .

 

Anyone who wanted to get the vax got it already give it up clowns you're not convincing anyone else to get it.

 

Most Patients in English Hospitals With COVID-19 Admitted for Other Illnesses
By Alexander Zhang
January 27, 2022 Updated: January 27, 2022
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More than half of all patients in English hospitals with COVID-19 are being treated primarily for something else, new figures show.

The latest statistics show a growing proportion of patients who are in hospital “with” COVID-19 rather than “for” COVID-19.

Of the 13,023 hospitalised patients in England reported as having the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus on Jan. 25, 52 percent (6,767) were not being treated principally for COVID-19.

This is the highest proportion since these figures were first published in June 2021, and is up from 26 percent at the start of December 2021.

A total of 501 patients in all hospitals in England were in mechanical ventilation beds on Jan. 25, compared with 773 at the start of December—and well below the 3,736 recorded at the peak of the second wave on Jan. 24, 2021.

 

There is more than Tucker Carlson being pathetic here. Also pathetic are the anti vaxxers that make their choice not to get vaccinated and then bitch whine cry and carry on because the whole fucking world won't bend over and kiss your ass for the CHOICE YOU MADE.

Its a free country and you are free to live and die with your own choices.


Tucker Carlson’s Most Tragic Interview
By Michael LucianoJan 27th, 2022, 6:23 pm
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If there were ever a time for Tucker Carlson to encourage even one person to consider getting vaccinated against Covid-19, Wednesday night was it.

Instead, the Fox News host stayed on brand and declined to do so.

Before I get to Carlson’s interview with the family of a man denied a heart transplant because he’s not vaccinated, let’s review his story.

D.J. Ferguson was diagnosed with arrhythmia four years ago and now needs a heart transplant. But he won’t be getting one for the foreseeable future. That’s because the 31-year-old Massachusetts father of two – soon to be three – refuses to get the Covid vaccine, which is required to receive the transplant. His family says he was due to receive a heart, but Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston has removed him from the transplant list as a result of his unvaccinated status.

Still, he refuses to get vaccinated even though doing so would land him back on the list.

“It’s kind of against his basic principles — he doesn’t believe in it,” said his father, David.

“He’s not an anti-vaxxer,” his mother, Tracey, told ABC News, in what has become a familiar claim for many of those opposed to the Covid vaccine. “He has all of his vaccines, and he’s an informed patient who is concerned because of his current cardiac crisis.”

On Tuesday, Ferguson had seven-hours of open-heart surgery to receive a mechanical heart pump, which should keep him alive for up to five years. But it comes with a cost.

“For the foreseeable future, he won’t be able to shower, he won’t be able to swim,” his father explained to ABC. “He won’t be able to have a life.”

For his part, Carlson has repeatedly cast doubt on the effectiveness of the vaccine, frequently with help from anti-vaxx bullshit geyser Alex Berenson, who on Tuesday told Carlson’s viewers the vaccines are “dangerous” and said people shouldn’t take them.

The next night, Carlson hosted Ferguson’s parents and partner, who is pregnant. It was Carlson’s most tragic interview yet. For one thing, Ferguson’s situation is sad enough, but the fact it is avoidable makes it much more so. For another, Carlson could have suggested that maybe – just maybe – Ferguson should reconsider his position.

But no. Instead, the most-watched cable news host essentially egged on the absent Ferguson by calling the hospital’s decision “a moral atrocity.”

Carlson prefaced his interview with the family by rehashing Ferguson’s story and declaring, “To be clear, there is no medical justification for this rule at all.”

But of course there is. As medical ethicist Dr. Arthur Caplan explained to CBS News, “The organs are scarce, we are not going to distribute them to someone who has a poor chance of living when others who are vaccinated have a better chance post-surgery of surviving.”

As he’s done before, Carlson also noted that myocarditis – an inflammation of the heart muscle – is a potential side effect of the Covid vaccine. But this occurs extremely infrequently. According to one report, among 192.4 million vaccine recipients, just 1,626 cases of heart inflammation were observed. That’s one out every 118,330 vaccinations, with the highest rates coming among adolescent males. None of the cases were confirmed to be fatal.

Carlson didn’t mention any of this, of course. Moreover, he did not note that myocarditis is more likely to be a side effect of getting Covid than it is of the getting the Covid vaccine. And as has been made clear many times over, being vaccinated against Covid reduces the risk of severe symptoms and illness in the event one is infected.

It’s also worth pointing out that people who are vaccinated and boosted are five times less likely to get the highly contagious Omicron variant. This information seems relevant, particularly for people with serious medical conditions like D.J. Ferguson.

Ferguson’s parents provided Carlson with an update on their son’s ordeal, prompting the host to call it “horrifying,” and accurately so.

“Having that dangled over our head at the very last minute after he had been through all the testing,” said Ferguson’s partner, Heather. “After he received his letter saying that he was accepted on the transplant list, it’s just so disheartening that they would hang that over his head and, you know, right at the last moment.”

“Has anyone come to your aid?” Carlson asked. “This is such a moral atrocity. Has anyone taken your side in this?”

“Not really, besides basically just the fundraising we’ve done for ourselves,” Heather replied.

“I’m so sad to hear this,” Carlson replied in a hushed tone. “I think everyone watching feels the same way. And we are definitely rooting for you.”

He bid them adieu and shrugged it off. “Well, that’s a heartbreaking story,” he said, before teasing his next segment on “some of the good things that are happening in the United States.”

Carlson did not follow up on his guest’s reference to a fundraiser, but it can be found here.

If he cared to do so, Carlson could have addressed Ferguson directly on air on said that, given his prognosis and the stakes involved – two children, a partner with a third on the way, and two seemingly very nice parents – he should think about putting aside his reservations about the vaccine.

Obviously, I have no idea if such an entreaty would have swayed Ferguson. But it’s just hard to fathom how someone in Tucker Carlson’s position on Wednesday couldn’t dare to suggest that getting the vaccine might be the best course of action. It could have literally meant the difference between life and death for one person.

Maybe even more.

Watch above via Fox News.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-interviews-dj-fergusons-family/

 

Which one is vincenzz?



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